May have found a new favorite run for the summer... started at the Gpond trailhead and went down to ArtN then down to Ice Box and up from there back to Gpond, sweet run plenty of shade and streams to cool off if needed... passed 2 bikers, i think they were a bit surprised when I came up on them... helped me to push it harder after passing them so I didnt get passed by them... felt awesome to run and very little pain on the knee! | 